Grandmaster Wong Kiew Kit on Curing Everything but AIDS with Qi Gong, Taoist Gods Fearing Menstruating Women, and Hurting Ghosts by Pointing

Since I put out to the Universe and Internet that I’d like to make scientific history (and a boatload of money) by proving some paranormal ability like External Qi Detection or Muscle Testing of things in glass vials, I’ve reached over 20,000 martial artists, energy healers, and acupuncturists with my offers to split a million dollars, help someone get published in a scientific journal, and proclaim their abilities to world.  I’ve had a couple interested people, but nothing serious so far.  The silence on muscle testing is particularly telling as testing it would be so easy and it is commonly used in alternative health clinics to prescribe medications to patients.

On Facebook, one fan of Ancient Way Acupuncture & Herbs suggested I contact Grandmaster Wong Kiew Kit, the author and owner of Shaolin.org.  I’ve read one of his books, The Art of Shaolin Kung Fu, but was not deeply familiar with his philosophies on paranormal phenomenon.  Fortunately, there is a large Question and Answer section at Shaolin.org.  I spent a few hours yesterday going through it, and have some things to share with my readers.

Before I delve into the fascinating world of questionable beliefs, I’d like to say that I appreciate the dedication and discipline of the Shaolin-based martial arts.  There is no question that these traditions engender skill of body and discipline of mind.  My first Chinese martial art was Hung Fut Kung Fu, similar to Hung Gar, another Southern Shaolin style.  While I eventually migrated to the more pragmatic Jeet Kune Do, based on Bruce Lee’s crap-cutting philosophies, the foundations and principles of Shaolin style training are still with me today and I will always fondly remember Sifu Sheung Wong from my lucky time training with him in Victoria, B.C..

Wong Kiew Kit (hereafter Wong) teaches 4 day intensive Qi Gong courses in Malaysia.  They are 1000 Euros, which is currently $1333.  He is very confident that his Qi Gong system is the best and that it can reliably cure cancer, diabetes, and serious heart diseases.  The only disease he won’t accept students to treat is HIV/AIDS.  More on that later.  Wong believes that all disease is due to ‘Yin/Yang imbalance’ and ‘Qi blockage’ and that one does not need to know the particulars of any disease to cure it.  This clearly includes cancers.  Here is his Q&A on science, Qi Gong, and cancer (question 16 from this page):

Question

What is your concern or interest on how to integrate qigong and science? Is there any point to this? (I realize the West has a rigid view, and needs to see ‘hard’ scientific data before implementations happen with medicine)

Answer

The double standard wittingly or unwittingly adopted by many western professionals often baffles me. In my opinion, there is hardly any “hard” scientific data on the success or even suitability of using chemotherapy, radiotherapy and surgery on cancer patients!

I sometimes wonder whether the professionals who administer chemotherapy, radiotherapy and surgery on cancer patients really know what they are doing. Since they explicitly or implicitly admit they do not know what cancer is, and therefore do not know what it is they are supposed to cure, it is difficult for me to find their treatment objective, predictable or veritable — three crucial criteria for anything scientific.

On the other hand, qigong is objective (although it is often not quantified), predictable and veritable. Unlike western professionals who are not sure what cause cancer, and therefore their recommended treatment is based on their subjective judgement, qigong masters are sure that illness, irrespective of the labels given to its countless symptoms, is caused by yin-yang disharmony, and therefore their treatment is based on the objective principle of restoring yin-yang harmony.

While western professionals cannot predict that chemotherapy, radiotherapy or surgery can remove the cause of cancer, qigong masters can predict that when yin-yang harmony is restored the illness will be overcome.

And while western professionals cannot verify whether a cancer patient is cured of his disease after he has undergone treatment of chemotherapy, radiotherapy and surgery (usually the patient has to wait for several years to find out whether his disease will relapse), chi kung masters can verify that once yin-yang harmony is restored, the patient is cured — and this is often substantiated by conventional medical tests.

The question of integrating qigong and science is irrelevant because qigong is already scientific. It is as irrelevant as asking how to integrate Chinese into a language.

Until and unless western medical scientists accept the fact that their way of looking at health and medical treatment is not the only correct way, there is no point attempting to integrate qigong with western medicine — just as until and unless western linguists accept the fact that western grammar and spelling are not the only ways to describe a language, there is no point debating whether Chinese is a language.

Say, you had diabetes. Your doctor told you that your diabetes could not be cured and you would have to take medication for life.

You practiced qigong, and after some time you found that your diabetes had disappeared. You saw your doctor again, and he said you were just lucky or yours was a natural recession. I would accept his opinion if yours was an isolated case, or even there were two or three such cases.

But if 40 out of 50 diabetics recovered from their illness after practicing qigong, and the doctor still said it was luck or natural recession, I would consider him hopelessly closed to other medical thought and treatment. If he challenged me to substantiate with hard data like sugar level and metabolism rate, I would not want to waste my time.

 I scoured Shaolin.org for reports and claims about cancer, and found 2 people who are the focus of Wong’s “case studies” on cancer.  The most prominent is Laura Fernandez Garrido.  The main page is called Overcoming Cancer and Experiencing Happiness From Within.  It starts by reporting:

In January 1997 my gynaecologist gave me a diagnosis of breast cancer. I suffered two surgeries, and received chemotherapy and radiotherapy.

Besides, in February my partner finished our relationship. I got two shots at the same time. My emotional crisis was for me as serious as the cancer disease.

In April I began to practice Tai Chi Chuan and chi kung. My instructor recommended me to have a personal consultation with Sifu Wong in his visit to Spain in May to look after the seriousness of radiotherapy in my lungs.  I met Sifu Wong in a park in Madrid and he explained to me what to do about my lungs and my emotions. “Always smiling from the heart” he said. He announced to me that in my next medical test I would be in good health, and he asked me to inform him by e-mail.

Soon I passed my medical tests and everything was alright!

I feel that my work with energy has saved by body, my mind and my soul.

Laura and this picture show up on other pages, such as “Can Cancer be Cured?” where Wong uses her as a key example for his ability to cure cancer with Chi Kung.  Unfortunately, Wong forgets that she had two surgeries, chemotherapy, and radiation, and at first came to him to help with the emotional stresses of her cancer treatments and relationship dissolution.  Here is what he says under the picture on the “Can Cancer be Cured?” page:
Grandmaster Wong and Sifu Laura Fernandez, who overcame breast cancer and went on to become a Shaolin Wahnam chi kung instructor helping many people overcome various so-called incurable diseases 

I suspect that most people can see the problem with this.  If on his own site, Wong first reports that she had surgery, chemo, and radiation, then later omits that fact and takes credit for curing her cancer, there is a clear problem of selective memory and confirmation bias.  This is not proof that Qi Gong is not useful as a supportive therapy for some types of cancer or as a remedial practice during or after cancer therarpy.  But it is proof that we should be very careful when accepting Wong’s conclusions about his results, especially before cancelling a cancer surgery and flying to Malaysia to study with him in the hopes of curing cancer.

On to a more mystical belief, we have this story about misogynistic Taoist Gods and a guy who goofed on his swordplay trick:

I find this interesting. My teacher, Sifu Ho Fatt Nam, was a great Zen master as well as great Taoist master. In the Chinese society where I learned the Shaolin arts from him, he was better known as a Taoist master. But in the Western society, probably because of his Shaolin mastery, he was better known as a Zen master.

Many people regularly consulted my Sifu for spiritual advice. His Taoist magic, which he always used for good, was very, very powerful — more powerful than what many people would believe. One day there was a Taoist celebration. My siheng, Ah Seng, who was learning Taoism from my Sifu, gave a demonstration of Taoist magic. He chopped his own leg with a sharp, heavy sword.

Normally the sword would bounce away as my Siheng would be protected by Taoist gods. But that day the gods did not come to protect him, and he did not know. This was because the previous night Ah Seng went out with his girlfriend who happened to be in the midst of her menstruation. Menstruated blood is considered “dirty” by Taoist gods, and Ah Seng was contaminated.

So the heavy sword cut right to his bone. Blood splashed out all over the place. Even if he were taken to hospital, he would bleed to death before arrival.

My Sifu quickly but calmly got a piece of paper nearby. With his sword finger (formed by holding the thumb, fourth and small fingers together, leaving the index and middle fingers straight) he drew some magical formula on the paper while he canted some Taoist mantra. He placed the paper on Ah Seng’s huge wound. The bleeding stopped immediately. The next day there was not even a scar on Ah Seng’s leg! In the range of my Sifu’s Taoist powers, this was only middle-level.

It was in his later life that my Sifu devoted time to Zen instead of Tao. I did not have the chance to ask my Sifu for his reason, but Ah Seng suggested why. I still remember Ah Seng telling me that Taoism leads to immortality (which is still in the phenomenal realm) whereas Zen leads to the great Void (which is transcendental).

 Guys:  if you cut yourself with a knife or a sword, I strongly advise you don’t blame it on your menstruating girlfriend having scared off the deities that normally protect you from such foolishness.  Enough said?  On that same page, question 5 has him strongly suggesting another cancer patient fly to Malaysia for a Chi Kung course as “Cancer can be cured, and we in Shaolin Wahnam have helped many people overcome cancer.”
Wong doesn’t know much about Western Astrology but is (wrongly) certain Western science hasn’t investigated it:

Second, I would like to know if you also know of Western Astrology, and what the traits of the star sign Cancer are? If so, how have your overcome the tendencies that I mentioned I possess above, including a tendency for Cancerians to be too sensitive, selfish, and moody?

Answer

I don’t know much about Western astrology, but I believe it is based on knowledge that modern science has not investigated. The different types of energy due to the different positions of heavenly bodies at the time of conception have strong influences over the foetes. A particular star, for example, may bring about certain physical and emotional characteristics.

I am not sure whether it is due to my not being born a Cancerian, but being too sensitive, selfish and moody are not some of my tendencies. I am also very sure that even if I had these tendencies, which were various forms of negative emotional energies, they would be flushed out by my vigorous chi flow.

Schizophrenia is on the list of diseases that Wong’s Chi Kung is promoted to commonly cure:

Question

When I was 24 years old, I acquired schizophrenia. I was in hospital for 10 months. I took neuroleptic. When I did not take neuroleptic for three months, I felt myself very good, but then my problem became aggravated. When I take neuroleptic I often feel anxious and have fearful emotions. I have constant tremors of my hands and feet. I would appreciate your advice.

— Denis, Russia

Answer

I am sorry about your schizophrenia problem, but the good news is that it can be overcome if you practice high level chi kung. We have quite a lot of students who overcame schizophrenia. They no longer take medical drugs and are now physically and emotionally healthy.

Chi kung looks at schizophrenia from a different perspective. In the chi kung paradigm, schirophrenia and all other psychiatric problems are not disorders of the body but of the mind (or spirit).

These mental disorders do have physical symptoms, but the physical symptoms, like the excess or the lack of certain chemicals in the body, are the result not the cause of the disorder. Hence, from the chi kung perspective, taking medication that corrects chemical imbalances in the body, inclouding the brain, only alleviates the symptoms of the mental disorder; it does not overcome the disorder itself.

To overcome the disorder, we have to approach the root cause. The mind (or spirit) of the patient has been “shattered”, resulting in him viewing events and objects differently from what a healthy mind would view.

There may be different intermediate causes for the shattering of the mind, but in chi kung we need not worry about these intermediate factors. Once we can overcome the root cause, in this case nurture the mind back to normalcy, the patient will recover — irrespective of what intermediate factors cause the mind shattering in the first place.

Practicing chi kung is an excellent way to nurture the mind. I would emphasize that you should practice not just any chi kung from any instructor, but high level chi kung from a master or at least a competent instructor.

Parkinson’s disease is just an energy blockage and can be cured with Shaolin Cosmos Chi Kung as well, according to Wong:

Question

I am 63 years old & suffer from Parkinsons Disease. Is there any hope for this?

— Maureen, UK

Answer

Yes, there is good hope to recover if you practice high level chi kung. Some of our students suffered from Parkinsons Disease before, but they were cured after practicing Shaolin Cosmos Chi Kung learnt from us.

From the chi kung perspective, Parkinsons Disease, like all other diseases, is due to energy blockage. Mental impulses, which carry instructions to muscles, are blocked from reaching their destinations. The chi flow from high level chi kung can clear the blockage, thus overcome the disease.

If a problem is not readily solved by standard Chi Kung practice, Wong states can help resolve past life trauma to help with the healing:

Question

Is it possible to know who, where, and when, of a person in previous life times, through one’s practice of Chikung?

Answer

Yes, this is also possible.

Indeed, in some cases of students who had deep-rooted problems not readily solved by chi kung practice, I successfully led them to relive their past lives so as to erase the negative imprints on their consciousness…

Time and again, Wong refers to all disease as coming from energy blockage and yin/yang imbalance.  He calls this the “Chi Kung paradigm.”  Here’s another example:

Question

My entreaty for your help refers to my father. He is 72 years old and two years ago doctors made the diagnosis of a spiteful tumor in his gall bladder. The experts cannot help him now and they tried to give him a duct for better flow of the bile-fluid. The tumor was developed from an “very old” liver-tissue From the beginning of illness till now my father has been very painful and there have been a lot of mistakes by the doctors. Now my mother and I have to attend to him and take care that my father does not get hepatitis…  In this moment I think you are my last hope or possibility to help my father.

— Peter, Germany

Answer

I am sorry to hear of your father’s situation. The good news is that it is not impossible that he may regain good health again. It will be inspiring to know that I have students who were older than your father in similar bad situations who recovered, and are now healthier than before.

But I would like you to know this clarification. What I say about your father is a possibility, not a certainty. In other words, it is possible that you father will recover, but there is no guarantee that it is certain to happen.

While it is not essential, it is helpful and inspiring to know the philosophy behind the healing via chi kung. First of all you need to understand that chi kung uses a paradigm very different from that of Western medicine. A paradigm is not a set of facts; it is a way of looking at things and explaining them.

Like most people, you may be so used to the Western medical paradigm that you may, consciously or unconsciously, think that it is the only way to look at health and illness. This is not true, there are other ways of looking at health and illness. Which way is the best is irrelevant. What is important is which way gives the desired result for a particular situation.

Suppose you had very high fever, and a Western doctor said that you had been infested by powerful bacteria. By taking the appropriate antibiotics, the bacteria would be killed and you would recover. This is looking at your situation from the Western medical paradigm, and it is the best in this situation as it brings the desired result. Had you used the chi kung paradigm, it would not be as effective.

The way you described your father’s situation was using the Western medical paradigm. By you own admission, this paradigm had not brought about the desired result. Thus, it would be wise to use the chi kung paradigm in his case.

From the chi kung paradigm, your father would not be seen as he had a gall balder tumour or that he might develop hepatitis. This does not mean that the tumour was not there or that hepatitis would not develop. It means that if we use the chi kung paradigm we would see the same situation differently and explain it differently.

In the chi kung paradigm, your father’s situation is described as energy blockage. You may understand the dictionary meaning of “energy blockage”, but you may not actually know what it means. In simple language, it means that the energy that flows to your father’s gall bladder and all his glands, tissues, muscles and systems, is being blocked from doing the work it does naturally. Actually, from the chi kung perspective all diseases are fundamentally caused by energy blockage.

If you find this explanation odd or even ridiculous, like some people do, it is because you are not familiar with this paradigm — just as people who are not familiar with the Western medical paradigm may find Western methods odd or ridiculous. But the crucial point is that in such cases like your father’s where the cause of the illness is unknown, as in cancer, hepatitis, heart failure, diabetes, chronic pain, asthma, depression and many others, if you use the Western medical paradigm the disease are consider “incurable”.

But if you use chi kung paradigm, the fundamental cause is defined, and if it can be overcome, the patient will recover as a matter of course. In other words, if the patient can ensure a smooth flow of energy that clears his energy blockage, he will he healthy again. It is really that simple — so simple that some people wonder whether it works. Of course it works. It has worked for the largest population of the world for the longest period of history.

Some people may ask, “Isn’t cancer caused by cell mutation, and hepatitis caused by viral infection?” That is looking at illness from the Western medical paradigm. From the chi kung paradigm, they are caused by energy blockage.

It is very clear that Wong feels the Chi Kung paradigm of energy blockage being the cause of all disease applies to virtually all cancers and also viral hepatitis.  There is one disease he won’t allow in his classes.  It’s HIV/AIDS.  Here’s his explanation:

Question

Your FAQ is amazing that I know something of what is real Kungfu if I have a chance to learn. But why Kungfu, Chi Kung and Taijiquan are not suitable for AIDS patients or HIV positive? Could you tell me?

— Guilherme, Canada

Answer

I have addressed the questions of AIDS and HIV before in my question-answer series, the latest being in Answer 12 of the April 1999 (Part 2) issue.

Firstly, please note I have never mentioned that chi kung, kungfu and taijiquan are not suitable for AIDS patients and those who are HIV positive. In fact, I believe that chi kung will provide the best chance of overcoming AIDS.

But I mention that the intensive courses I offer are not suitable for AIDS patients and those with HIV positive. This is because I do not know enough of the effect of chi on the HIV (virus). In particular I am not sure whether the chi resulting from my chi kung course might activate the HIV, thereby causing AIDS.

As I have always maintained that a good teacher must be both professional and responsible, I would not be practising what I preach should I accept AIDS or HIV students. Teaching something which I do not fully understand is being unprofessional, subjecting students to possible risk is being irresponsible.

The onus of professionalism and responsibility rests with the teacher, not with the students. In other words, even if students with AIDS or HIV approach me saying, “Sifu, we know the risks and are willing to bear them,” I would not accept them into my courses. It is like pupils telling their teacher, “Sir, we accept the risk of drowning, but please let us swim in the sea.”

I also have a responsibility towards other students. Unlike in hospitals or special centres where safety measures are adequate, there are none in my courses. If an accident happens, such as during a self-manifested chi movement exercise an AIDS patient falling onto a healthy student and unwittingly scratching him, the former might pass on the HIV virus to the latter.

It is worthwhile to mention here that should any HIV patient think that since he (or she) is already afflicted with the disease, he would not care about the welfare of others, and join my courses under the pretence that he does not have AIDS or is not HIV positive he would be unwise and doing himself a great disservice. As I have said that I do not know the effect of chi on the HIV, the risk of him aggravating his problem is real .

Moreover, what is certain is that if his heart is malicious, he will not only deny himself the chance of a possible cure (which he may get somewhere else), but also deny himself of living his remaining life in a wholesome manner. If he can open his heart, despite his illness, he needs not be miserable. In fact the Chinese terms for being generous and being happy are “opening the chest” and “opening the heart” respectively.

Another legitimate question is “If I believe chi kung may turn out to be the best solution for AIDS patients and those who are HIV positives, then why don’t I teach these people?” The answer is as follows. I am a teacher, not a researcher. I know my limitations, so I leave the important job of researching into chi kung cure for AIDS for people who are better qualified than I am. I want to spend my time in areas where I am sure my effort will bring good results, not in areas where I think it may bring good results. I am confident and competent when dealing with people suffering from diseases like cancer and cardiovascular disorders, as I know what I am doing and have good track records. The need of these people is even more urgent than that of AIDS patients — the spread of incidence is wider, and the rate of death is higher and often quicker. Cancer affects one out of five persons, and cardiovascular disorders is the top killer.

Wong repeatedly has stated that all disease is due to energy blockage and that the Chi Kung paradigm does not need to know what the ‘scientific’ diagnosis or Western Medicine cause is.  He clearly states that cancers can be cured, “But if we take the Chinese perspective, there is no such a disease as cancer!”  Also viral hepatitis is clearly stated as another ‘energy blockage’ disease which his methods can cure.  However, he feels the AIDS virus is different!  If menstruating women are “dirty” and offend the Taoist Gods, are we overstepping to read superstitious homophobia into his insistence that people with AIDS should not come to his classes?  Viral hepatitis is highly contagious, moreso than HIV.  In fact, in his answer about HIV/AIDS we see that he claims to be totally sure that his methods can cure cancer and every other disease, it is just AIDS he is unsure about.
We don’t have to wonder about Wong’s homophobia for long, as he wrote clearly about his feelings about homosexuality:

Question

I have a little bit of fear that your views might be against homosexuality. I have met healthy and good people for whom being gay is just another feature of their personality and they are fine human beings. Their moral standards and other virtues are like anybody else. So many great authors and artists have been homosexual as well, so I don’t feel comfortable saying its a bad thing to be gay. I don’t want it for myself, but I’m not sure if one chooses it, or as modern science is saying, we are born with our sexuality.

Answer

I am not against homosexuals though I disapprove of homosexuality. As mentioned above, I believe homosexuals are generally very nice people.

My opinion is that homosexuality is culturally and not biologically caused. A person is born male or female according to his or her sexual organs and other biological factors that cause him or her to think, feel and act as a man or woman. If a man thinks, feels and acts like a woman, it is due to cultural influences.

However after a private discussion where a Shaolin Wahnam instructor told me cases of persons whose cultural environments were so against homosecuality yet they remained homosexuals, I have become more flexible in my views, and I am prepared to accept biological factors as the cause of some homosexuals. For example, a person may be born with a male body, but his biological factors produce so much female hormones that even without cultural influences he feels more comfortable to be a woman.

The heartening part is that regardless of whether a person’s homosexuality was culturally or biologically caused, he can overcome it by practicing high-level chi kung. From the chi kung paradigm, homosexuality like any other disorder is a case of yin-yang disharmony, and is caused by energy blockage.

In the case of biologically caused homosexuality where persons in male bodies produce too much female homones that they behave as women, the blockage is physical. When the blockage is cleared by vigorous chi flow, their maile bodies will produce the right amounts and types of homones resulting in them behaving as men.

In the case of culturally caused homosexuality where cultural factors that happened in their earlier years or even in their past lives cause men to behave like women, the blockage is emotional, mental or spiritual (i.e. in their consciousness). When vigorous chi flow has cleared the blockage, they will behave like men.

In your case, you are not even a homosexual. You only think you have a possibility to be one. The cause of your problem was mental. You were too confused to see reality, and you formed a wrong perception of your own sexuality. You do not even need high-level chi kung to clear your blockage. Once you have mental clarity to see your mistaken perception, as I have shown you in this e-mail, you will overcome your problem. But if you practice high-level chi kung, your success is even more assured.

Elsewhere he refers to homosexuality as perverted and sick, and puts it into the category of diseases due to energy blockage, yin/yang imbalances, and says it can be cured by proper Chi Kung practice.  If the above answer wasn’t clear enough, he gives a concise and clear of his religious stance against homosexuality here:

Question

Also, I was wondering, for quite a while actually, what homosexuality is. I know the definition, of course, but I mean in its essence, what is it? Is it a mental blockage? Can it be fixed? I’m not a homosexual myself, and I understand if this topic is too controversial for you to answer, especially to someone who you haven’t even met.

Answer

My views on homosexuality is personal, and many other people may disagree. The views may be offensive to some people, but when asked for my opinion, I would give it honestly.

In my opinion, homosexuality is an illness. It is unnatural, and against the will of God, or by any other terms people of different culture call the Supreme. Nature or God creates men and women, and wants them to marry and have children.

Yes, it is a mental blockage. It is, in my opinion, not biological, but cultural.

Like any other illness, homosexuality can be overcome, and an excellent way is to practice genuine, high-level chi kung. A homosexual person may lack, or have excess of, certain chemicals in his body, just like cases of patients suffering from other forms of illness like infection, diabetes or anxiety. Chi kung training can balance his chemicals, and restore his normal healthy functions, including having wholesome desire for the opposite sex.

What does Grandmaster Wong Kiew Kit believe about Dim Mak?
At first it seemed that Wong had a pragmatic view of Dim Mak, where kitting a specific nerve point could cause intense pain or a knockout.  Dim Mak refers to hitting specific acupuncture points during a fight to cause special types of damage.  I skeptically reviewed a couple books on the “Death Touch” recently.
As I dug into Wong’s question and answers, it’s clear he has beliefs about the advanced application of Dim Mak from a distance in his lineage:

Question

I just wonder which of all the techniques that exist in martial art is the most powerful or the highest?

Answer

In kungfu circles, there are what is called “the three ultimate arts”. They are One-Finger Zen, Strike-Across-Space Palm, and Marvelous Fist. All these three are Shaolin arts.

A One-Finger Zen master can “dot” the energy points of an opponent from a distance of 36 steps. A Strike-Across-Space Palm master can strike an opponent from a distance of 72 steps. A Marvelous Fist master can strike an opponent from a distance of 108 steps.

Strictly speaking it is not the technique that is important; it is the master’s internal force…

On another page he says that one can eventually move a stone without touching it by practicing with the sword-fingers.
Wong backs out of offering proof of special powers by suggesting that it’s unethical to demonstrate killing someone:
Skeptics may legitimately ask for proof that such internal force really exists. On the other hand, internal stylists are usually not interested to demonstrate their skills or to enter into competitions where they may have to kill their opponent to prevent their own defeat. To ask them how they know their internal force work if they have never tried it on an opponent to kill or main him, is like asking how do you know the gun you are holding work if you have never shot a bullet into someone’s head.
Moving a rock from a distance with your Qi shouldn’t be so unethical, and would revolutionize the world if proven in a controlled setting.  Since Wong already encourages people with cancer to come pay him for classes to cure it, think of all the other cancer patients he could reach if he would prove a paranormal skill like telekinesis!  Assuming one can strike a person from 36, 72, or 108 steps with energy, getting a rock to move from 1-2 feet away shouldn’t be so hard.  In fact, making the claims that different distance Dim Mak techniques have specific ranges of efficacy implies they have been repeatedly tested.  Otherwise it’s just an empty parroted claim passed down in his lineage.
Right under his explanation of why it’s unethical to prove the powers he claims exist in his lineage, he once again encourages a cancer patient to come work with him and specifically mentions Chi Kung students “overcoming deadly viral diseases.”  Other than AIDS, of course:

Question

Early this month, I was diagnosed with a 4th stage colon cancer. I had an operation to have 6 inches of the affected colon as well as 9 lymph nodes removed. I have a 6 inch incision on my abdomen which is expected to heal completely in the next 2 weeks. I am an ardent fan of Master Wong’s chi kung books. I believe Master’s chi kung course will help me in my fight against cancer. I would like to attend the course.

— Kenny, Malaysia

Answer

I am sorry to hear that you were diagnosed with cancer, but the good news is that cancer can be cured! I am so convinced with this fact that I wish to repeat it: cancer can be cured.

Actually there is nothing amazing about overcoming cancer. Right now millions and millions of people all over the world are doing that, just as they are also overcoming deadly viral diseases. The really amazing thing is that by nature, which means without having to do anything extra, we can overcome all diseases. It is our natural birth-right to be healthy and happy…

I suspect if Kenny took classes with Wong he would enter the ranks of students Wong claims to have cured of cancer, despite Kenny’s conventional surgery.

Grandmaster Wong gives a couple other examples about paranormal Chi Kung abilities including someone he knew who walked through walls (thought admits he never saw it):

Although there are occasions where tricks are used by charlatans, the feats of real masters are true. I can say this with force and conviction because not only I have personally witnessed some of these feats, my own masters, myself and some of my disciples can perform some of them. I also know some tricks which stuntmen often employ for their demonstrations.

I hesitate to quote examples because, understandably, almost no one would believe them. I would also not want to elaborate, as you have correctly mentioned, they involve secrets strictly not meant for public consumption. But I would mention the following two cases.

My sipak, i.e. a senior classmate of my sifu or master, could walk through a wall! I did not witness this feat myself, nor had I the opportunity to meet my sipak in person. This and other fantastic feats performed by my sipak were related to me by people who had personally witnessed them and whom I have no reason to suspect. Placed in a different situation I would not have believed it.

The second case involved my sifu, myself and my student. My student, who learned kungfu from me many years ago, met my sifu and me having a snack at the esplanade in Penang (often called the Garden of the Orient). That studnet was in deep trouble; and he sought my help. I asked him to appeal for help from my sifu.

While the student was talking to me, I noticed my sifu mumbling something, possibly a mantra, then blew a breath onto the student. Almost instantly and visibly the student brightened up, and soon he left. My sifu, who is a highly spiritual person and has saved many people, told me that had the studnet not met us, the student would soon die! He asked me whether I had noticed a thin red line running down the student’s forehead. I did, and I also knew it was not there before. That red line was my sifu’s gift that saved the student’s life.

Proclaiming that his master saved a student’s life by blowing on him after mumbling a mantra is a pretty weak “proof” of paranormal abilities.  This long-time student clearly knew of and respected Wong and Wong’s sifu, and of course would feel happy to get the attention and blessing of his master’s master.  For Wong to pick these two things as examples of paranormal abilities is very unconvincing, but typical of a “true believer.”

Wong Kiew Kit is aware of the James Randi million dollar paranormal challenge.  Here is his response to others who suggested he apply to prove his abilities and win $1,000,000:

Question

In fact, James Randi, a professional sceptic, is offering 1 million US dollars to anyone who can prove that qi is real.

Answer

In fact, qi has been proven to be real numerous times. Virtually all those who have attended my intensive chi kung courses have no doubt that qi is real, though neither they nor I proved it quantitatively or mechanically.

Indeed, the question was never asked, partly because the answer was perceptively felt, and partly because the result had rendered the question unimportant. If you, for example, were depressed or had diabetes, but after practising qigong for a few months you felt cheerful or could take sugar without ill effect, you would not be bothered whether qi was real.

In the 1960s or 70s (I can’t remember the dates accurately), qigong masters like Lin Hou Sheng proved the reality of qi scientifically. They transmitted their qi to some scientific instruments which showed that qi consists of various infra-red rays, sub-sonic waves and static energy. But a sceptic could argue that was not qi, it was only various forms of rays, waves or energy.

A few well-intended persons have suggested that I take up the James Randi challenge. I have not, for various reasons. The foremost reason is that I have been very busy. Another reason is that while I would like to work with someone sincerely wanting to test the validity of qigong’s claims, I feel uncomfortable working with professional sceptics whose expressed intention is to discredit you.

Other questioners raised the Randi challenge again, as well as his claims to have successfully performed Distance Qi Healing:

Question

I have read your response to a questioner asking about a million dollar challenge of the Randi. Organization . I understand you hold the belief that the agency’s sole purpose is to discredit you. I believe rather that their sole purpose is to prove what is true, under scientific conditions which both parties must agree to.

Answer

I am sorry you have misunderstood me. I did not say that the main purpose of the Randi Organization was to discredit me or anyone who responded to their challenge. It is just that at the moment I am not ready, and not interested to take up the challenge.

Question

Of all your abilities, it seems strange that the distant chi transmission would be the one thing tested scientifically, via participation of an independent newspaper. I have looked earnestly for the results of this test and these efforts have proven fruitless. Can you provide us the details of this test? What qualified the newspaper as a scientific body? Can you provide us with further insight into what made you choose distant chi transmission as a testable claim and not something more immediate?

Answer

You have misunderstood me again. The distant chi transmission was never intended to be tested scientifically in the way you interpret it. There were, for example, no formal hypothesis, no quantitative measurements and no elaborate mathematical equations.

However, we believe it was scientific in spirit. The newspaper, though not a scientific body, was independent, and the recipients of chi were chosen by them from public volunteers. The experiment was carried out over a month, and witnessed by the public.

Distant chi transmission was not chosen from a list of alternatives. It was a response to a request from a major Chinese language newspaper in Malaysia.

 Wong insists that scientific research has proven distance Qi abilities (I’ll cover that in future posts) and himself proposed a study on a group of people with “incurable diseases” which he presented at a scientific congress (question 7).  He doesn’t seem to get it that when he claims to be able to move rocks at a distance or heal/hurt people by projecting his Qi, it’s a very different claim than suggesting that people who practice internal Qi Gong exercises (a combination of movement, breathing, and visualization) will have improvement in their health.
The last of my examples of Wong’s claims and beliefs for today is his thoughts on ghosts and protecting oneself from spirits.  The questioner stated she stayed in a hotel and had dreams of ghosts.  Then she asked Guan Yin for help and dreamed that Guan Yin took the spirits to a happier place.  Wong replies:

What you did was correct, and I am proud of you. It was so wonderful that Bodhisattva Guan Yin set the spirits free as well as took you to a beautiful place in the Cosmos. It was a rare privilege. Congratulations.

Lower spirits could not harm you at all. Not only you are protected by Bodhisattva Guan Yin and Grandmaster Lam Sai Weng, your own energy field acts like a shield of electricity to lower spirits. Any spirit that comes close will be bounced away by your good energy.

My chi field is so powerful that spirits would move away when I approach. Years ago when I had to drive along a road besides a cemetry on the way to teach chi kung in Bukit Mertajam in Malaysia, I used to send a message to the spirits there not to be worried as I had no intention to harm them.

On another occasion, a student took a picture of me as I entered a room. When the film was developed, the photograph showed a partial limb of a monster-spirit (which is much more powerful than a ghost) moving away at the door. None of the people present felt anything unsusal at the time. It is a pity I could not find that photograph now.

Question

Is there a way a person can protect oneself from seeing these spirits? Also is there a way to protect oneself from spirits harming him? I know these questions may seem rather odd.

Answer

You can protect yourself by chanting a powerful mantra, like “Namo Guan Shi Yin Bodh Satt” or “Om, mani padme Om”.

Our “One-Finger Zen” is a powerful weapon against spirits. If you shoot chi at them, you could harm them. So, don’t do it. It is sufficient if you show them the “One-Finger Zen”, with the index finger pointing upward.

 That’s right, you shouldn’t point at ghosts, as your Qi could hurt them.
Let’s sum up what we now know of Grandmaster Wong Kiew Kit’s Shaolin belief system:
  1. All diseases are caused by energy blockage and yin yang imbalance
  2. You don’t need to know the specific diagnosis or standard medical cause of a disease to cure it with Chi Kung
  3. Cancers of all types are reliable and easy to cure with his Chi Kung system
  4. One of the main students he claims to have cured of cancer also had surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation
  5. Serious viral diseases, schizophrenia, and Parkinson’s disease can all be cured with his Chi Kung system
  6. HIV/AIDS is the one disease he’s not sure about, so people with AIDS should stay away from his classes
  7. Homosexuality is a disease (which can be cured by Chi Kung), and God wants all people to marry and have babies (except Shaolin monks who prefer to remain single and live with other guys to learn Kung Fu)
  8. Advanced practitioners in his lineage can use Dim Mak to hit people from 108 paces away and move rocks with their Qi
  9. Wong firmly believes someone in his lineage walked through walls, though he never saw it
  10. Someone trying a stunt with a sword cut his leg.  They failed because the Taoist Gods which normally protected him were upset that he was around his “dirty” menstruating girlfriend the night before.
  11. His master proved his paranormal abilities by blowing on someone and claiming that saved his life
  12. If you point your finger and visualize shooting Chi at a ghost, you could hurt it, so you you should do Buddhist chants instead.
  13. He doesn’t want to win a million dollars from James Randi to prove his claims because he’s busy and not interested
  14. People with all sorts of cancers should fly to Malaysia and pay him $1300+ for 4 day Chi Kung classes as his methods can reliably cure them
I’m very interested in your comments and will read them all.  Did I misquote Wong?  Have I misunderstood his claims?  Is this someone you would want your loved one to go to for a cancer cure?  Do you take what he says about paranormal abilities as true?  Do you think I’m a jerk for how I’ve compiled and characterized his statements?  Do you think I should try to chase him down and get him to prove one of his superpowers in a controlled setting?
Again, I’m willing to help someone with special Qi abilities design a study to prove their supposed abilities in a controlled fashion.  I’ll do my best to write it up in standard scientific fashion and get it published in a respected medical or scientific journal.  Then we can go after James Randi’s million dollar prize (I’ll split it with you, that’s ample motivation for me to have your powers be real!).  If you really have the ability to heal cancer with Qi, move rocks with your mind, knock people down from a block away, or walk through walls, think of all the good you can do by finally demonstrating this in a way that will be accepted by doctors, scientists, and skeptics.

12 thoughts on “Grandmaster Wong Kiew Kit on Curing Everything but AIDS with Qi Gong, Taoist Gods Fearing Menstruating Women, and Hurting Ghosts by Pointing

  1. WOW!!! I GUESS ALL OF MY TRAINING AND READING HAS BEEN WRONG ACCORDING TO GM WONG. I HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THAT ” NO ONE” CAN HEAL ANOTHER????? YOU CAN ONLY HELP THEM TO HEAL THEMSELVES. IF ONLY I WOULD HAVE TAKEN TRAINING FROM GM WONG!! I NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO MONTAGUE AND PAY ME $1300+ FOR 4 DAYS OF INSTRUCTION. WHEN I GET TIME I WOULD LIKE TO READ MORE OF GM WONG’S SITE. THANKS FOR THE DIM SUM MAK POST CARD IN OUR LAST ORDER!! LOVE IT KEN

    • Thanks, Ken! Again, I think that many of the basic of Shaolin style Kung Fu training are useful and produce good results on body and mind. But as they say, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” Walking through walls is certainly an extraordinary claim. But the claim that practicing martial arts forms daily will improve your self-discipline, physical health, and reaction speed doesn’t require much extraordinary evidence. Wong does largely insist that by practicing his Chi Kung you can heal yourself, though I’ve seen his students promoting their external Qi healing services as well. I’m writing more about External Qi research right now, by the way, so stay tuned!

  2. Review by J. Barr for Rating: This book has a lot of text on chi as far as it relates to body mdnreiais, and various expressions of chi in sex, and disease. It covers the more esoteric parts of chi if your interest is along that line. There are good graphics to go along with these explanations. The book is very nicely broken down but I have to admitt that I’m not one for flowery chapter headings that sound more like vague generalizations than specific divisions. But this may just be my personal preference. Where the book fails to me is that it does not show you the cycle of chi gung exercises to develop the internal strength it highly praises. There are a few specific movements that are prescribed for certain maladies or goals but these are not going to be very useful without having taken the time to develop the basis for such use. I’ve been involved with the martial arts, aikido and jujitsu, for over 20 years and I’ve been doing chi kung for about half that time. To get anywhere near the type of results this book mentions you have to develop the full cycle of chi kung exercises through a regimen of daily practice. Spot applications of particular exercises will lack the chi development that comes from daily practice it would be like going in to a gym and expecting to come out looking like Atlas after one visit. Following the advise in this book by itself, based on my experience, would be very frustrating to people.A better how to book for chi kung is The Way of Energy by Master Lam Kam Chuen. Master Chuen offers a very specific and practical development of the chi kung exercises from beginner to advanced. Drawings and explanations are easy to understand and not poorly translated from Chinese. There are also adequate healthcare warnings as several of the moves can be quite a strain on the circulatory system.

  3. An anonymous senior student of Wong Kiew Kit encouraged me to share this comment via e-mail:

    Hi Kevin,

    I agree with you 100%. Your article only touches the tip of the ice berg. We need more balanced and credible criticism like yours out there.
    (Although there is an obvious benefit from exercising and learning self-defence techniques) Ultimately, with my experience, I do see Shaolin Wahnam Institute as a cult like organization with master Wong as it’s fascist leader in the guise of a flawless guru. There are many stories of the hypocrisy and downright brainwashing. One look at their forum and you will find, thought stopping processes, cognitive dissidence, double speak, mass suggestion, peer pressure, abuse and much more, you have it all there. If you only knew (and I suspect you do) how close you have touched on some items.

    The cult like logic. For example: If it works it’s because of the sacred masters teachings, if it doesn’t work, it’s because you have failed in proper practice or mindset and need to take another intensive course.

    ‘Good science, by definition, allows for more than one opinion, otherwise you merely have the opinion of one man; which is the basis of a cult.’

    Keep up the research!

  4. I have been performing Energy Healing for over 20 years now. I agree with the commenter above who said that the “healer” really does nothing except facilitate the healing processes of the recipient. My gut feeling on cancer is that it is not a disease at all, but merely a symptom. It can be “cured” in a myriad of ways, but if the underlying dis-ease is not corrected (one of the more effective ways of curing cancer, btw), either the cancer will return or a more serious illness (read: symptom) will result.

    Once I started seriously playing with Tai Chi and Qi Gong, I noticed a marked improvement in the efficiency of “my” healing. (Yes I know it’s not really “mine”. The recipient’s body merely takes advantage of the situation presented. Without their conscious consent and participation, plus the absence of any subconcsious inhibitions, not much is possible in the way of lasting benefit.)

    I would have no problem demonstrating my method to anyone, anywhere, anytime. I also do not anticipate being able to affect even the smallest grain of sand physically, let alone stones or pebbles. That’s just ridiculous.

    As far as “Dim Mak” and affecting people negatively with these arts, of course it is possible. Anything that can cure can kill, and vice versa. It’s just that the Law of Karma is still in play, and unless you have a very good reason for hurting someone else you will have a lot to answer for. So please don’t ask me to demonstrate that either.

    However if anyone wants to put up money for any kind of Psi challenge I’m game! Just tell me what you want to see :) I’ll do it for half!

    • Thanks, David, for your comment. Check out my protocol and challenge/offer for External Qi here: http://ancientway.com/blog/?p=962. I’d love to split a million bucks with you and make history. It sounds like you’re pretty practical and don’t think you can do telekinesis. I *really* wanted to move things with my mind after seeing The Empire Strikes Back as a kid. Oh well, I’m not embarrassed for having tried!

      It seems like Psi experiments with plant seedlings would still be a good start. But of course the challenge is to make sure they get the exact same food and light. Some of the aquaponics/hydroponics setups that flow the same water by all seedlings may be good that way. But still, my test design (or Emily Rosa’s) is more pertinent to Qi Gong healing (i.e. detecting the presence of a hand’s energy field at 6 inches).

      Did you know that Benjamin Franklin was directly involved in testing Mesmer’s magnetic energy healing? Look it up, it’s fascinating. One day I’ll research it more and write a whole post on it.

      As a student of both hypnosis and Qi Gong (and very amateur magician), my current hypothesis for External Qi Healing is hypnosis/suggestion from a healing ritual. I’ve written several other posts about Qi Gong research, you may find them interesting–I’m always open to comments, questions, or criticism (anything but spam robots!). You can google Ancientway Qigong or start here: http://ancientway.com/blog/?p=2025.

      Regards,

      Kevin

  5. I took a weekend course with Wong Kiew Kit a few years back. I personally heard him say Qigong could cure many diseases including cancer. He also stated you can eat,drink, smoke what ever you want but if you practice qigong you would not get sick. There was even some guy suffering from schizophrenia who took the course. I remember he asked Wong would it help with his mental health issues and he stated it would.

    I also asked Wong a question in private. I cant remember what it was because it was prob 10 years ago but it was in relation to qigong. I asked him something like how does qi does this or that. He gave me an answer but it was very vague. I asked him again and he became quite aggressive. He stated I was closed (I think i am pretty opened minded and I am not a pushy person) and he walked away from me. I can remember being a little offended by his aggressiveness and comment! I knew he was something not right with this guy there and then!

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